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What is the Enneagram?

What is the Enneagram? In this week’s podcast, we explore what the Enneagram is and why it can make such a difference in your life and understanding of others.

Leigh Kramer and Crystal Paine

What is the Enneagram?

We’ve been getting a lot of questions lately about the Enneagram recently, so I thought it was high time we devote part of an interview to explaining what it is and why it can make such a difference to understand.

Truly, understanding the Enneagram has changed so much of my perspective on life and has improved my relationships, my compassion toward others, and has helped me to embrace the way that I am wired and see it as a gift, instead of something to be embarrassed about.

a photo of the enneagram

My friend and virtual assistant, Leigh Kramer, is joining me to share more because she’s passionate about the Enneagram and she has helped me to process through what my number is and why it matters.

Leigh will explain each of the nine Enneagram types, as well as how to figure out what yours is (and why taking online tests isn’t the best way) and how this knowledge can help you become a healthier person.

In This Podcast Episode:

[00:25] – I just got back home from helping out at a 7th and 8th grade camp in Kentucky… where I shared a cabin with 20 other girls/women and we had a cereal party, karaoke, and even glow-in-the-dark dodgeball.

[03:37] – My kids have testing this week so they wanted me to make homemade energy bites. We love these so much!

[05:06] – I have a confession to make: I didn’t read a single book last week. Can you believe it? But I share an app/site that’s been helping me stay more motivated to read (which might sound funny since I didn’t finish any books last week! But listen in for more details!)

[09:08] – Ready for better mornings? Try my free 5 Days to a Better Morning Challenge!

[09:56] – I’m excited to have Leigh Kramer joining me today for a conversation about the Enneagram!

[12:47] – How did Leigh first discover what the Enneagram is and why is she so passionate about it?

[14:57] – For listeners who are new to the Enneagram, Leigh explains more of the history of the Enneagram and what each of the nine types are.

[18:35] – One of the things I love most about understanding what the Enneagram is that it gives you a path to being more emotionally healthy as a person.

[19:59] – What’s the best way to determine what enneagram type you are? Leigh talks about why online tests often give inaccurate results and what she recommends instead of taking a test.

[23:16] – Leigh is one of the most voracious readers I know. She shares why she reads so much plus two books she’s finished and loved recently. She also shares something that’s saving her life right now: the perfect mugs!

[28:04] – Ready for today’s Q&A segment? It’s all about setting goals, specifically whether Jesse also does monthly goals (like I do).

[33:31] – If you need practical help with setting goals, check out our Make Over Your Year course.

[34:24] – Do you have a question of your own? Or feedback or suggestions? Email Crystal at!

Links and Resources:

How to Listen to The Crystal Paine Show

The podcast is available on iTunesAndroidStitcher, and Spotify. You can listen online through the direct player we’ll include in the show notes of each episode. OR, a much easier way to listen is by subscribing to the podcast through a free podcast app on your phone. (Find instructions for how to subscribe to a podcast here.)

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  • Amy says:

    I do enjoy your podcasts but don’t have time to listen during the work week. Can you add a tab or an easy call out so I can find your podcasts quickly when I go to your website? Or am I missing something you’ve already put in place? Thank you

  • dev says:

    Thanks for explaining what enneagram actually is

  • dev says:

    Thanks for explaining what enneagram actually is

  • Sara says:

    I have been using Goodreads for a couple of years, and I love it to track my reading. I just recently started using the Libby app to listen to audiobooks, and I really enjoy that, too. You can switch your editions of the books you are reading to the exact edition that you have, which helps when tracking audiobooks. If you switch your edition to audiobook, then you can track it by % instead of pages. And the Libby app gives you the percent that you have heard. Just thought that might make your Goodreads experience even better instead of having to guess at the pages.

  • Sarah says:

    Okay, this is totally nosey of me, but since you are so open and vulnerable at your blog, what is Jessie’s Enneagram profile? Yours is 8, right? I found that hard to believe, but now I’m so curious to compare the two of you. When I shared the “compatibility” between mine and my husband’s numbers (I’m a 1 and he’s a 4, we THINK), he jokingly said something to the effect of, “I hope this isn’t some sort of horoscope thing, because this is so accurate, it’s almost scary.”

  • Sabrina says:

    Can you write a post on what life is like as an Enneagram 8, ie your journey?

    I think 8 is one of the more challenging numbers to be (ha, to be the Challenger!) so it might offer some insight.

    Also, would you be willing to write a post about how your Enneagram #’s and knowing about them (8 & 5) has helped/affected your marriage?

    I am an 8 and my husband a 6, so that’s helped with the “why” of how we act.

  • Anna Rose says:

    I am a 9 and my husband is a 1 all the way! I was so glad to have taken it because I always felt so out of place like I never fit a box, anywhere… like not introvert, but not extrovert, likes too many different things (both English and Science and Art), both right brained and left brained. And this has helped me process how I think and react compared to my husbands. Now I feel like I can give him space to be himself because he’s not a 9 and so I have stopped expecting him to act like me. Whew.

  • Lauren says:

    I am a 5 married to a 7. The Enneagram has helped up understand each other so much better!

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