I found a recipe for Homemade Oxiclean on Pinterest not too long ago. And right then and there I decided I wanted to try it myself.
We go through Shout like crazy. Something about three, busy, active, on-the-go children who seem to think it’s their God-given duty to find new and creative ways to get stains on their clothing each hour of the day. 🙂
I invested in a big bulk box of Shout almost two years ago using my Amazon giftcards from Swagbucks to pay for it. We’re nearing the end of that bulk purchase and I’ve been surveying my options.
So this Homemade Oxiclean jumped off the page at me. Maybe this would be the answer to my stain-fighting problems?
I had all the ingredients on hand already so I knew I at least had to try it and find out. The worst thing that could happen would be for it to flop and not work.
Homemade Oxiclean Recipe
1 cup water
1/2 cup hydrogen peroxide
1/2 cup washing soda*
Mix all ingredients together and store in a dark spray bottle. (Hydrogen peroxide loses its effectiveness if stored in a light container. I have mine in a yogurt container for now, and plan to check the dollar store for a dark spray bottle in the next few days.)
To use: Spray on soiled laundry and let it sit overnight. Or, if you have a number of clothes that are soiled, you make up a batch of this and soak them in it overnight. Then, launder as usual.
The jury’s still out on whether or not this will replace my incessant use of Shout, but I’m really hopeful that I’m going to be duly impressed with it over the next few weeks as it was very simple and inexpensive to make.
*Many recipes online call for baking soda instead of washing soda. While this might work, from the research I did supposedly the chemical properties of washing soda are more accurately suited to getting stains out. Or something.
Don’t ask me to try and explain chemistry stuff because I’m pretty much clueless about all the formulas and anything that has words I can’t pronounce. 🙂 But I’m hoping maybe some of the chemists here could better explain why you should use washing soda instead of baking soda.
The sprayer will not work I tried three working sprayers and they all seized up as soon as I sprayed them. Cleaned them out and they sprayed water fine. I done know about the product working or not.
Weird! I’m so sorry you had issues with it! -Meg, MSM Team
To those who wish to know the difference between washing soda and baking soda ii is very simple. Baking Soda is Sodium Bicarbonate, Washing Soda is Sodium Carbonate. Washing Soda is Baking Soda that has had the water and carbon dioxide removed from it.
Yesterday (August 21, 2017) I was at Wal-Mart looking for Washing Soda. $6.21 a box (55 ounce size) here in Houston. Baking Soda is $1.98 for a 4 pound box 64 ounces ( Generic Brand not Arm & Hammer)
Bought the Baking Soda, went home and spread it all out on a large cookie sheet lined with foil. Set oven to 400 Degrees F (204 C). After oven was ready I placed the cookie sheet in the oven and let it bake for 1 hour 30 minutes at 400 Degrees, stirring the Baking Soda every 30 minutes.
After 90 minutes I had Washing Soda. Texture had changed and I tasted a small bit and it had definitely changed from Baking Soda to Washing Soda. I weighed out the soda and I had 63 ounces of soda. The rest was lost to evaporation.
Now the cost:
Arm & Hammer Washing Soda $6.21 for a 55 ounce box makes it 11.3 cents an ounce
Home made washing Soda $1.98 for the box of Baking Soda plus .27 cents to run my oven since it is electric total cost $2.25 for 63 ounce or 3.6 cents an ounce
Used the washing Soda today on a white load. Brighter then bright it came out and I am talking white socks that were dingy and dark on the soles.
SO I just made a batch of homemade laundry soap using Ivory Soap ground to a powder, sodium percarbonate (Powdered Hydrogen Peroxide), the washing soda, and some lavender flowers ground very fine, and I washed a set of WHITE sheets and towels in it. The towels were a little dingy in color. Operative word being WERE. Not any more they aren’t. And they came out smelling fantastically floral from the lavender flowers.
I make artisan soaps at home for craft shows so I have an old food processor that I use to make hand milled soap. First I shredded the Ivory, then I used the chopping blade to grate the shreds to a fine powder. Same for the lavender flowers (dried ones). Blended it all together in a plastic pail and I now have enough OxyClean Type Laundry Detergent to last me a while now. (Probably about 6 months). The stuff is concentrated so I only use 2 Tablespoons per load in an HE Washer
I’ve been trying and trying, to no avail, to get rid of old pet stains on my carpet. Oh how I hate puppy training! Then I remembered years ago I used Oxy-clean on carpets to get out cat vomit and how nicely it worked. Well peeps, I tried this recipe on my light colored carpet and ITS A WINNER. I tried a smaller stain first and its amazing!!! Every other pet stain remover on Pinterest failed. This wins hands down!!!!
Love how the stains come out on shirt collars, pot holders, socks, undies,jeans, gentle on silky like blouses and dresses. Love the smell and softness of sheets, pillow cases and towels using the Borox. Home made laundry detergent and home made fabric softeners. How long it lasts
Sodium Percarbonate is powdered hydrogen peroxide. Amazon sells it.
Mixing that with washing soda is oxy clean. Their site is very vague on ingredients. I mix it with my DIY laundry soap which is grated ( i make my own laundry bars) borax and washing soda. To that, I add baking soda and the sodium percarbonate.
What is the formula for home made oxy-clean? I buy it all the time and it works wonders. I’d like to make it myself.
Has anyone been using this recipe? I’d love to hear if it is working.
I tried this on some set in stains on hand-me down baby clothing that had already failed the Shout test. I soaked for a couple of hours (watered down so the water level in the bowl was high enough to cover the 3 items). The solution did bubble and foam, and when I went to push the clothed under the surface again it splattered. I defititely agree with other posters about NOT putting this into a bottle, it will explode. And the washing soda, when diluted in water, is a strong base you do not want in your/your kids eyes. Anyway, did not seem to work for my stains at first- ended up tossing the clothing in with my hot/bleach towel load and some of the stains were much lighter, but hard to tell if the stain solution did it or the bleach, or both.
I found a recipe for stain remover that I have used on stained baby clothes. It works wonderful!
1/2 cup Clorox 2
1/2 cup Cascade (dishwasher detergent)
1 gallon warm water
Mix together and soak clothes in solution overnight
I found what I thought to be a great deal on hydrogen peroxide this week too! At wags they have a double pack of 32 ounces for $2.00. Match that with the BOGO50% you can get 4 32 oz bottles for $3.00 or .75 a peice.
If you don’t have a sprayer that fits the hydrogen peroxide bottle, then just get some aluminum foil and wrap it around the outside of your bottle. Voila, instant darkness for the contents of your bottle. This is what we do for light-sensitive chemical solutions at my work. It’s easier and cheaper than special ordering amber bottles.
Crystal, Would you really spend money on a dark spray bottle?
Yes, most definitely, because I’d see it as a $1 investment in something that will hopefully save me 20 times that, or more, over the next few years. 🙂
If I can afford it in our budget, I am always looking for ways to invest money into things that will end up saving me ten times as much on things I’m already spending money on. I see this as part of being a wise steward and maximizing the mileage of our time and money.
However, in this case, I’m consider using a Shout bottle that is almost all used up–someone mention that in the comments and I thought it was a great idea!
I was surprised you wouldn’t just use the shout bottle automatically.
I had initially planned to do that, but then I was concerned that putting these ingredients in a Shout bottle could potentially cause an issue (I know if you mix certain cleaners it can be lethal!). But as I thought through it more after someone commented, I realized that I could probably wash it out thoroughly enough to not have to worry about it!
And just so you know, I don’t always think of the obvious. 🙂 That’s why I’m so grateful for my readers who help me and teach me so much!
Well, I cleaned out my old Shout bottle and put the homemade Oxyclean in it. When I went into my laundry room later it had exploded all over the laundry room. So be careful with that.
Good to know–and I’m sorry about your explosion in the laundry room!
have the kids paint a clear bottle black, lol. i know mine would love to get that “chore”
For white cloths my mom always soaked stains in
1 cup powdered dishwasher detergent
1 cup bleach
and hot water
soak overnight and stains come out!!!
Previously I made homemade laundry detergent that called for washing soda.
Our clothes faded a tremendous amount when I used this laundry detergent so I wouldn’t recommend washing soda for that, however for it works great for cleaning the bottom of my shower floor.
I sprinkle it on, then rub the sponge over it, let it sit all day long and then scrub the tub for a few minutes.
Sparkly white!
I have used peroxide to get out blood stains and it works without fading. I forgot about the dawn alternative! Amy D. (The Complete Tightwad Gazette) wrote a recipe for a homemade recipe as well, but I can’t remember what it was.
I didn’t read through all the comments to see if someone already mentioned this, but I use dishwashing detergent to soak my stained clothes in. It gets out yellowed armpit stains, grass stains, tar, grape juice stains… anything! I just put about 2 TBSP in a bucket and fill it with water and soak the stained clothes over night. If the stain isn’t out, I soak it some more. If it’s out, I wash it like normal!
It may not be as cheap as your recipe for homemade Oxiclean, but it’s certainly cheaper than Shout!
This looks awesome!
I am using the homemade laundry detergent from here (the last 2 months or so) and I noticed dark spots on my kids navy uniform polos. Anyone know what this is or how to fix it?
I use the borax/wasing soda/fels naptha dry mix.
Thanks for any input…
Dawn…are you using liquid fabric softener? I stopped using liquid for clothing because it can leave greasy looking spots on your clothing.
I love that you do this kinds of projects!
What I’ve found to be the best stain remover is Simple Green. The concentrate is about $8 for a gallon at Home Depot and it lasts a really long time. I put it in a spray bottle without diluting. The only thing it hasn’t been great on is blood but I also didn’t treat that particular garment the way I should have. Anyway, it was suggested by a good friend of mine who works for SC Johnson, which manufactures Shout, so I took that recommendation pretty seriously. 🙂 You can also use it as a multi-purpose cleaner around the house (Like Fantastic).
Would love to hear how this works out for you! We’re big Oxi-Clean users here. I stock up on the big boxes from Costco whenever they have a coupon available.
Mary Ellen
The Working Home Keeper
Just a tip….I use my old peroxide bottles to store any homemade cleaners containing peroxide. You can even find some of your old spray bottle nozzles that will fit easily on top.
I used the oxiclean recipe and used baking soda instead of the washing soda, on a pair of my son’s underwear, that had been peed on by the cat (whewie, cat pee smells horrible). The underoos were red, and I soaked them in the solution, then poured the whole thing, underwear and solution in the load I had waiting in the washer and voila!, there was no residual smell and NO FADING. As far as stains, I haven’t used for that yet, I’m addicted to shout stain stick at the moment, but will definitely try the homemade oxiclean for stains.
The best (and cheapest!) stain remover I have used is: dish detergent! I no longer need to purchase extra laundry products. Simply dab a couple of drops on the stain, let rest if needed, and launder as usual.
Not sure if anyone else already mentioned this, but you could just cover the bottle in a sock. Might need a rubber band to keep it on, but I would think that would keep the light out. Might be one way to put those pesky, lone socks to use. 🙂
My children seem to think they have been given the same mandate as yours! 🙂 I’ve had good success with regular oxyclean when I let clothes soak in a bucket of water with some oxyclean for 48 hrs. +. I just push them around to agitate it probably twice a day. All sorts of stains seem to come out easily. Not sure how this would work with the hydrogen peroxide in the recipe though.
That’s what I do too. It’s great for getting the used feel out of Goodwill and Thrifted clothes as well.
I gave up Shout early on once I discovered Dawn dish soap. It is a de-greaser and gets out any stain that you can imagine. You must use warm/hot water to cut the grease, but it is cheaper than Shout and it is one less product to buy if you are already using Dawn for your dishes. I came upon this because I once shook up a bottle of Italian dressing and the top flew off drenching my new Land’s End turtleneck. I called the company and they suggested it. I never looked back and I raised three babies using it.
Why not use the old shout bottle? It’s dark and you already have it?
If this works well, I am super excited bc I do not like the smell of most stain cleaners.
walmart sells a peroxide in a spray bottle
I use Murphy’s Oil Soap on stains. A little dab goes a long way, and you don’t have to mix or prepare anything. I just put as dab on the stain as I put things into the hamper. Nothing has ever been bleached or faded from it. And if you are concerned about the “oil”, don’t be. It never leaves a residue.
This sounds like an odd recommendation for stain removal but my mother recommended this to me a few months ago and so far it seems to work on everything! Dishwasher detergent! Works better then shout does for me on all the stains I’ve tried it on (even old set in stains.) I usually get my dishwasher detergent super cheap and you only need a very very tiny amount (just enough to get the stain damp.) Granted, don’t use the ones w/bleach – but I’ve let it soak on my clothes for over a day on occasion and I haven’t discolored or bleached any fabrics yet.
Its not really a replacement for oxyclean, but I love it as a replacement for shout.
Dish soap is the best thing to use for grease stains without a doubt.
I just use straight hydrogen peroxide. I take off the lid and put a spray atomizer on and use this for most all of my stains. It does wonders on carpet stains! Of course, I would be cautious to try it on a dark colored carpet. I also use it on laundry and have not found it to be a problem. I would try it first if concerned on the inside of a garment to see if there would be any bleaching effect.
Many of my friends swear by Fels Namptha (sp?) bars for stain removal.
I know many laundry soap recipes use it as well.
I, too, am addicted to Shout,and I cannot ever stock up on it enough to suit my needs.
The one handy tip I Do have is for “accident,” laundry. A vinegar soak is the only thing that I’ve found to take out the odor.
Looking forward to future updates, Crystal!
Fels Naptha did not work great for me. Maybe the stains were too set when I tried to use it. It is pretty cheap so maybe it is worth trying for someone else…
If you have a fresh blood stain – by far the best thing to do is put it in hot water and rub it out with salt. I know people usually say cold water but this mix has save me many times!
I used to use Shout spray only… But then I recently discovered Resolve Spray and Wash. It had a guarantee on it, so I tried it. I am telling you, I don’t even have to check the items anymore before putting in the dryer. It is my newest favorite product!!! (I promise I don’t work for them or anything. I just love it!)
I don’t know about doing these sprays homemade though—I would want to see how well this actually works. Even a few clothing items getting bleached would make me consider it a waste. The stain fighting sprays are worth even paying full price when you consider the cost of replacing stained clothing (as well as ability to resell it later!).
Peroxide comes in a spray bottle – available at wal-mart. I use straight peroxide to disinfect my countertops. I have kept the empty bottle, will now make the stain remover. Thanks for the recipe. I love the DIY posts.
If you bake baking soda around 450 degrees for 30 minutes to an hour, it is supposed to “turn into” washing soda. This is what I use for part of my homemade laundry soap.
Our Wal-Mart sells peroxide in a spray bottle – I bought one and just refill it – our oldest hates having it sprayed on cuts, so we can shoot her on the run with the spray top 🙂
When my boys were little I got a regular clear spray bottle and spray painted it red, filled it with water, and we sprayed “Monster Spray” under their beds and in their closet at bedtime. Maybe you could just spray paint your spray bottle a dark color!
Haha! I love it!
I tried this yesterday when I saw the crossed out link on your “to-do” list. My baking soda (I didn’t have the washing soda on hand) got all clumpy in the spray bottle and wouldn’t disolve well. It clogged up the bottle. I noticed on the link that she used a jar…I really would love for it to work in the bottle- any tips? I will say that it worked great on the stains- I’m so impressed!!
This is just the recipe I need today. Thank God for you, Crystal, and thank you for all of the generous suggestions you have for us!
Another easy solution for the dark bottle problem. Spray the light colored bottle with dark spray paint. Before you paint, put a stripe of tape down the side, then pull it up after painting. That way you can easily see the level. And, you already know that bottle works.
Thank you for sharing this. I am going to have to give it a try!
I have already made the switch to homemade laundry detergent and dish washer detergent so this is a great addition to my frugal, green life-style. Thanks so much!
On a side note, thank you so much for your sight, I’ve been a couponer for over a year but really wanted to focus on less proccessed food (I love oreos and my husband loves doritos so I know we’ll never be 100%:)) but I found that since I started using coupons I’ve been buying more processed snacks. I cook dinner everyday and have done some freezer cooking for before each of my kids were born but look forward to incorporating it on a regular basis. I stumbled on your sight on Saturday and by yesterday I had already made the mini apple pies, pumpkin carrot cake muffins, energy bites and black bean brownies! Needless to say, I’m sold on your website. Thank you again!
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement! Freezer Cooking on a regular basis (even in small little sessions like I’ve been doing recently) has been a huge help to our family–and our budget!
Can I freezer cook a week’s worth and it fit in my regular freezer in my refrigerator?
Definitely! See my picture here: https://moneysavingmom.com/2009/11/the-method-to-my-madness-start-where-you-are-and-learn-as-you-go.html
Let us know if it works – I’m dying to know! If all else fails, I swear by Zout (available at Target and elsewhere). It’s a little cheaper than Shout and Tide Stain Release, and personally, I think it works a whole lot better.
This will be a great $$ saver if it works!
Wow, I am so trying this! I have been so hesitant to buy stain remover b/c of all the harmful chemicals. But this seems like a much safer option to have on hand, thanks so much for posting!
hydrogen peroxide is also really good for getting off hard water build up in bathrooms.
Really? I have been trying to get our old tub clean for THREE YEARS. Do you use it straight or dilute it?
I use straight vinegar or slightly diluted on our hard water stains…let it sit then scrub and rinse and buff dry.
I use the vinegar from cleaning my coffee pot. Heated vinegar works much faster than cold vinegar on tackling hard water stains.
Hi Celia,
This is going to sound gross, but honestly, it WORKED! My friend told me that she uses a pumice stone (like the one you use on your feet) to get the ring out of her toilets and her bathtub. Well, I was scared to death that it would scratch the inside of my toilets, but I didn’t want to buy the poisons to clean it, so I tried it (with gloves), and it REALLY WORKS! Takes a while but it works!
Perfect! We moved into a house that has terrible hard water build up on the tubs. Thanks!
In my experience, hydrogen peroxide bleaches clothes. I wouldn’t spray it on my laundry…. unless does the washing soda somehow counteract that?
I spray down the counter tops with a mixture of 1/2 vinegar and 1/2 water and 1/2 hydrogen peroxide and 1/2 water after cutting raw meat. I saved an old peroxide bottle and used the spray bottle top from an old spray bottle as the lid.
I found online that washing soda has a higher ph of 11 than baking soda that is only 8. So the washing soda will eat away at things more than baking soda will and will over time eat away at your laundry. But both are good for getting stains and smells out of laundry. Hope it helps.
The pph is different because one is sodium bicarbonate and the other is sodium carbonate or better known as soda ash. The chemical component is very different. Ive been using it for years and never had and fading or other issues, I also make my own laundry detergent with it as a key ingredient. Happy stain fighting
The higher a pH is the more basic it is. Neutral is 7, so baking soda is just slightly more basic than water, and most water- city or well is usually higher as well. it being more basic is not as bad as it being more acidic.
Hydrogen peroxide is great for getting out stains (especially blood) … just be sure to test it first, as it can bleach some fabrics!
I want to know if the peroxide fades out the colored clothes????
I found peroxide in a spray bottle at Dollar General. I picked up one to use on blood stains.
Funny, I just made this myself today. I will need to switch it to a new spray bottle b/c mine is a light one. But we will have to compare if they work the same b/c we used baking soda for ours. But I was using it on some stained clothes as I was working on laundry and the baking soda was clogging up my sprayer but getting ready to start a load that was soaking so will let you know how it did.
I washed my clothes that I used my homemade oxy solution to soak stains, and it came out perfect, took even set in old stains out. So using baking soda vs washing soda didn’t make a difference for our load.
I have become hopelessly addicted to Tide Stain Release. If anyone has a homeade alternative for this, let me know! For now, I am good since I stocked up with coupons and sales a few months ago, but I will be crying if I ever have to pay full price for that stuff!
Me too! I used to use a ton of Shout, but I was super impressed by Stain Release. It took out stains that had been in clothes worn by a previous child, and had moved onto child #2!
The spray nozzles sometimes fit on the peroxide bottles. I have one I did this too. Won’t the peroxide bleach the clothes?
If you can’t find a dark spray bottle, take a light one and cover all but one very thin vertical striped section with duct tape — then you can see how much is left in the bottle!
My thought exactly. The many wonderful uses of duct tape 🙂
oooo Missy, I love that idea!!
Please keep us posted on how this works. I go through shout-type products by the gallon. (We are soccer players.)
ChrisAnne,
To remove dirt & grass stains from clothing, presoak them several hours to overnight in a bucket of warm water with about a half cup of cleaning amonia, then wash normally. Our now 22 year old son was involved in every sport imaginable.
Dont leave the clothes in it for days on end (forgetting about them) because it will break down the clothing fibers too.
If anyone can tell me an alternative for the washing soda it would be great. We live in Mexico and I can’t find this. Oxiclean cost like $6-$7 and I would love to be able to make it – I have 2 boys and a girl that like to stain their clothes 🙂
You can make washing soda by baking baking soda–the heat causes a chemical reaction to occur that turns it into washing soda.
http://tipnut.com/10-homemade-laundry-soap-detergent-recipes/
I could not find how to do this on the site. Any way you could give the specific location?
I hope it’s legal to copy and paste this. I just scrolled down and found it in the comments in the tipnut link. It took me awhile. I hope this is the info Meg was noting.
RL says:
Baking soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) slowly turns into washing soda (Sodium Carbonate, a.k.a. soda ash) when heated above 140 degrees F. The carbon dioxide released is what makes things rise. If you heat baking soda to 350-400 degrees, it’ll turn into washing soda fairly quickly.
Washing soda is also sold in pool supply stores as “soda ash”, and is used to raise the pH of the water. (Read the label to make sure it is 100% Sodium Carbonate).
Washing soda is sodium carbonate… Try pool supply or http://www.soapgoods.com or http://www.acehardware.com Dont mistake it for sodium bicarbonate, there not the same. Its also known as soda ash. Hope it helps.
You can make your own washing soda with baking soda.
Pour a pound of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate, available commercially in grocery stores) onto a cookie sheet. Spread it out so it heats evenly.
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Heat the baking soda for an hour at 300 degrees F.
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Pour the washing soda into a jar and seal tightly. It becomes more alkaline when heated, so use gloves to handle it or transfer it with a spoon.
Read more: How to Make Washing Soda | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5859235_make-washing-soda.html#ixzz1YaozkACJ
The only place I can find it is at the grocery store in the laundry aisle. You might look there, if you haven’t already.
washing soda…. is… baking soda… baked !! 😉
Ok so what you do is :
1- grab/measure the amount of washing soda you need. (1/2 cup for this recipe)
2- oven heat at low… place baking soda on a baking oven tray.
3- 1 to 2 hours (it depends on your oven… mine do not show the C/F settings on the knob… so I had to guess… but kept my flame (gaz oven) low… took me two hours….
4- turn it over with a fork a few times to make sure all powder is exposed to heat.
5- You will see a difference in texture and color…. from white baking soda, it will be a light beige very light… fluffier.. less grainy them baking. Also, taste a tiny bit (tip of tongue) .. BUT DO NOT SWALLOW.. .I rinse off immediately… it does not taste like baking at all…
there you go.
I will be interested in knowing how this works! Be careful if you use it on colors because the peroxide can fade things.
Peroxide has also been known to leave a brown dingy stain as well.
I don’t think that is possible. There’s nothing about it that can stain clothes that comes to mind. Great for getting blood out though!
I will have to give this a try. Thanks for the heads up about needing a dark container – I never knew there was an actual reason the peroxide came in a brown bottle. Thanks for sharing!
I never knew about the brown bottle, either. I just assumed it was to easily differentiate from the rubbing alcohol. LOL 😉
In case you want a brief chemistry lesson about this:
Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2 (2 hydrogens bonded to 2 oxygens, all in one molecule). If you were to take an oxygen off, you’d have H2O (water). Over time, light serves as a catalyst to break the extra oxygen off the hydrogen peroxide, turning it into water and oxygen gas.
The brown bottle keeps out light, so it prevents this reaction from happening. Theoretically, if you put your hydrogen peroxide into a clear bottle, eventually you’d have a bottle of water. The oxygen would escape when you opened the lid.
If you want to see the reaction happening quickly, you can use a different catalyst: baker’s yeast. If you put a few grains of yeast into any amount of hydrogen peroxide, you’ll see it foaming and bubbling, and you might be able to see a thin stream of “smoke” (which is really oxygen gas, not smoke at all).
I used to use this reaction for a high school chem lab that I taught. 🙂
Very cool!
You might be able to put a sprayer right onto the peroxide bottle.
That’s exactly what I was thinking!!!
Funny. That was my exact thought as well. Try the dollar store or at least you can store it until you find something. I usually find spray bottles for buck and then take the top off and they fit perfect on the Costco peroxide and rubbing alcohol bottles. So Crystal if yours is too short look for the huge peroxide bottles at costco they are usually very cheap for sometimes a 2 pack. Hth